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1991 Watchtower study article just prior to WTS joining UN

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

please see the study article, “their refuge–a lie!” in the june 1, 1991 watchtower, noting paragraphs 1, 10 and 11. paragraph 1 calls christendom “that apostate religious organization.” why apostate?.

paragraph 10 asserts that “she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations–this despite the bible’s warning that friendship with the world is enmity with god.” to support that assertion, paragraph 11 quotes an unnamed “recent book” which reports that “no fewer than 24 catholic organizations are represented at the un.” how were such organizations represented at the un?.

the unnamed book quoted in paragraph 11 is new genesis by robert muller.

Roger Kirkpatrick

Please see the study article, “Their Refuge–A Lie!” in the June 1, 1991 Watchtower, noting paragraphs 1, 10 and 11. Paragraph 1 calls Christendom “that apostate religious organization.” Why apostate?

Paragraph 10 asserts that “she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations–this despite the Bible’s warning that friendship with the world is enmity with God.” To support that assertion, paragraph 11 quotes an unnamed “recent book” which reports that “no fewer than 24 Catholic organizations are represented at the UN.” How were such organizations represented at the UN?

The unnamed book quoted in paragraph 11 is New Genesis by Robert Muller. (See attachement #1.) The sentence immediately preceding the portion quoted by Watchtower states, “All major world religions are accredited to the United Nations as non-governmental organizations.” Why did Watchtower omit that significant statement?

In the same year as that 1991 study article, the Watchtower Society also became accredited to the United Nations as a non-governmental organization, and served as publicity agents for the UN for the next 10 years–reapplying each consecutive year–until the alliance was exposed by the Guardian newspaper in October 2001, whereupon Watchtower withdrew its membership. (Watch Tower admits its affiliation to its Branch Committee in attachment #2.)

Notice that Watchtower’s letter refers to the Guardian article as “published allegations by opposers,” yet later states that “we are grateful that this matter was brought to our attention.” No mention, however, is made of the June 1, 1991 study article.

According to a public statement issued the UN’s Department of Public Information (UN/DPI), registered NGO’s had to “share the ideals of the UN charter” and “have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and a proven ability to reach large or specialized audiences.” (See attachment #3.)

What is Watchtower policy regarding individual JWs who do what their organization did?

“A person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as becoming part of an organization whose objective is contrary to the Bible, and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God. So if one who is a Christian chose to join those who are disapproved of God, it would be fitting for the congregation to acknowledge by a brief announcement that he has disassociated himself and is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” (Sept. 15, 1981, Watchtower, p. 23, par. 15)

“In joining the YMCA as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. . .Hence for one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to become a member of a so-called “Christian” association would amount to apostasy.” (Jan. 1, 1979, Watchtower p. 31)

According to the standard by which it judged Christendom to be apostate, and in light of Jesus’ words at Mathew 12:37 that “by your words you will be condemned,” should the Watchtower Society be viewed as an apostate religious organization?

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Letter Detailing My Latest JW Encounter

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

to whom it may concern: .

i am writing this letter in the hope of reconnecting with two jehovah’s witness elders whom i met at a literature display in downtown new braunfels, across the street from krause’s.

i explained to them that my daughter is a jehovah’s witness and, therefore, i am somewhat familiar with their beliefs.

Roger Kirkpatrick

Giordano, everything you say is correct, of course. My intent was never to reconvert the converted. I couldn't care less about the reaction of the elders with whom I spoke. On the other hand, my letter documenting the conversation will be read by those two elders (who know the discussion went exactly as I documented), and by other elders, as well as those on the forums you mentioned. In short, my letter takes on a life of its own, and many more people will read it than those to whom it was mailed. Get it?

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Letter Detailing My Latest JW Encounter

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

to whom it may concern: .

i am writing this letter in the hope of reconnecting with two jehovah’s witness elders whom i met at a literature display in downtown new braunfels, across the street from krause’s.

i explained to them that my daughter is a jehovah’s witness and, therefore, i am somewhat familiar with their beliefs.

Roger Kirkpatrick

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing this letter in the hope of reconnecting with two Jehovah’s Witness elders whom I met at a literature display in downtown New Braunfels, across the street from Krause’s. I explained to them that my daughter is a Jehovah’s Witness and, therefore, I am somewhat familiar with their beliefs. I had received in the mail a letter from the Kingdom Hall, and I asked the two men to clarify the letter’s claim that only 144,000 Christians would go to heaven to reign with Christ.

I had my daughter’s copy of the book, Insight On the Scriptures, Vol. 2, as well as a copy of the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures. I first turned to the subject of ‘sanctuary’ in the first book, pointing out the definition, “a divine habitation.”

Next, I turned to Luke 1: 9, 21 in the Interlinear, concerning the Levite priest, Zechariah, offering a sacrifice in the temple sanctuary. I directed their attention to the literal meaning of the Greek word rendered there as ‘sanctuary,’ that being “divine habitation.”

Next, I turned to Revelation 7:15 in the Interlinear, which discusses the symbolic great crowd worshiping God day and night, but Watchtower renders the same Greek word there as ‘temple.’ I directed their attention to the literal meaning of the same Greek word that is used in Luke 1: 9, 21, that being “divine habitation.” Clearly, the great crowd is in the temple sanctuary.

At that point, I asked the two men, “What is signified by serving in the divine habitation, or the sanctuary?” They asked me what I believed, but I referred them to Watchtower’s answer in the Insight book under the subject of ‘temple,’ the third paragraph under the subheading “Jehovah’s Great Spiritual Temple.” There it states: “The Holy (divine habitation) represents their condition as spirit-begotten sons of God, with heavenly life in view, and they will attain to that heavenly reward when their fleshly bodies are laid aside in death.”

I summed up my point by saying, “So according to the Bible, and to Watchtower publications, the symbolic great crowd is made up of Christians who are spirit anointed with heavenly life in view.” I told them that, prior to 1935, Watchtower taught that all Christians were spirit anointed with heavenly life in view. I asked them who introduced the concept of two classes of Christians having separate hopes, when Ephesians 4:4 says that all Christians are called to “one hope?”

They said they would have to do some research, and they promised to call at my home. They took note of my address, but I have never heard back from them.

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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

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Roger Kirkpatrick

The fact that there are POMI ex-JWs who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of Armageddon indicates that Watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come. Watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people ALL of the time...and that's enough!"

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Zalkin Law Firm flooded with calls from ex-JWs

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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yesterday, i posted a question for a friend in texas as to whom he should contact to report sexual abuse from the 1960s by a jw pioneer/elder who is now deceased.

(incidentally, there are plenty of people who are still alive and in the organization who were very aware of the circumstances and who can be summoned to give testimony regarding these accusations.

) so, my friend called the zalkin law firm.

Roger Kirkpatrick

The fact that there are POMI ex-JWs who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of Armageddon indicates that Watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years. Watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people ALL of the time...and that's enough!"

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Zalkin Law Firm flooded with calls from ex-JWs

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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friends

yesterday, i posted a question for a friend in texas as to whom he should contact to report sexual abuse from the 1960s by a jw pioneer/elder who is now deceased.

(incidentally, there are plenty of people who are still alive and in the organization who were very aware of the circumstances and who can be summoned to give testimony regarding these accusations.

) so, my friend called the zalkin law firm.

Roger Kirkpatrick

Yesterday, I posted a question for a friend in Texas as to whom he should contact to report sexual abuse from the 1960s by a JW pioneer/elder who is now deceased. (Incidentally, there are plenty of people who are still alive and in the organization who were very aware of the circumstances and who can be summoned to give testimony regarding these accusations.) So, my friend called the Zalkin Law Firm. The woman who took his call told him that they have been flooded with calls from former JWs since the statute of limitations was lifted, and that they have had to triple the number of paralegals and office staff just to handle the influx of calls. She told my friend to be patient, that it may take a month or more before he hears back from an attorney. This is wonderful news to all who love seeing WT having to account for its flawed policies which allowed such abuse to flourish for decades.

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Join "Spotlight JW. ORG," a private Facebook group

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please consider joining this private group dedicated to exposing a religious cult which lies about its past, endangers the lives of its members, tears apart families, and shields pedophiles from prosecution while masquerading as a benevolent religion.. .

https://www.facebook.com/groups/835225223242611/.

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Roger Kirkpatrick

Please consider joining this private group dedicated to exposing a religious cult which lies about its past, endangers the lives of its members, tears apart families, and shields pedophiles from prosecution while masquerading as a benevolent religion.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/835225223242611/

Hey, Jerry Anderson, email me!

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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jerry anderson has been trying to reconnect with me.

he sent me the following message on this forum, which he checks once in a while.

jerry, email me at [email protected].

Roger Kirkpatrick

Jerry Anderson has been trying to reconnect with me. He sent me the following message on this forum, which he checks once in a while. Jerry, email me at [email protected].

<<Hey Rodger, sorry for the late reply. Yes, I remember you well. My name is Jerry Anderson. I was going to court reporting School when I knew you. I still remember Denise and Barry working in your store. I touched base with Denise about 6 years ago. She seems to be doing okay. I left the JW's about 25 years ago. I was trying like heck 2 to win a two-year-long religious debate at work with a Southern Baptist coworker to bring him into the organization. When he hit me with all of our false prophecies, which I verified in our own Kingdom Hall Library which had every single Watchtower back to the first edition, I had to admit he won. I followed up with some discussions with the leadership at Bethel but they did not want to answer my questions. I ended up leaving and lost my marriage, all my friends and most of the members of my own family like my mother, and my brothers and sisters.. however, over time I got my sisters and brother out. I call myself a free range, cage free, organic Christian now. Sorry you are having to go through the difficulties you are suffering because you do not want to compromise your ethics to the Watchtower.>>

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Mail copies of this letter to local churches and to whomever!

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

dear neighbor:.

since the end of the world as we know it is dangerously near, we are writing you to tell you the things your minister has not told you, but which jehovah’s witnesses (jw.

org) want you to know.. jesus christ returned invisibly in the year 1914 c.e.

Roger Kirkpatrick

Dear Neighbor:

Since the end of the world as we know it is dangerously near, we are writing you to tell you the things your minister has not told you, but which Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW. ORG) want you to know.

Jesus Christ returned INVISIBLY in the year 1914 C.E. (the start of the “last days”) and proceeded to judge all Christian religions. In 1919 C.E., Jesus personally selected the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (AKA Jehovah’s Witnesses) as God’s spirit-directed organization to preach the good news of God’s kingdom before God destroys all human governments and false religion in the approaching battle of Armageddon (Matt. 24:14). Therefore, it is imperative that everyone who wishes to avoid destruction by Jehovah at Armageddon must become a Jehovah’s Witness as soon as possible. Admittedly, the Watchtower previously claimed that Armageddon would definitely occur in 1914, then again in 1925. Then it was strongly suggested that it would occur in 1975, when Watchtower officials coined the phrase “stay alive ‘til ’75!” But those were just the predictions of imperfect men. This time, the Governing Body is really, really sure! So, do not hesitate any longer!

Don’t make the common mistake of reading your Bible without the aid of Watchtower publications because you might draw the erroneous conclusion that Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong. The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses is Christ’s “faithful and discreet slave” (Matt. 24:45), and only the Governing Body can accurately interpret the Bible. So, forget everything your minister has taught you, because all religions–except for Jehovah Witnesses–are FALSE religion, and their ministers are actually ministers of Satan who has blinded their eyes. Oh, they may preach that Jesus is the mediator between God and mankind, but they have not told you that Jesus is ONLY the mediator for the 144,000 Christians who are spirit anointed to go to heaven. True, Jesus said that no one comes to the Father except through HIM; but, the only way to JESUS is through the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the “faithful and discreet slave!”

Only 144,000 Christians were given the hope of going to heaven with Jesus (Rev. 14:1). All other Christians who survive Armageddon will enjoy everlasting life on a cleansed paradise earth (Psalms 83:18). Only a small number of those 144,000 spirit anointed Christians remains on earth today, and ALL of them are Jehovah’s Witnesses. They alone should partake of the bread and the wine when commemorating the annual Lord’s Evening Meal.

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe it is a sin to accept life-saving blood transfusions, because the Bible plainly tells Christians to “abstain from blood.” Admittedly, many scholars say that the only Biblical prohibition regarding blood was against eating the blood of animals which were killed for food. But those scholars are wrong, because the “faithful and discreet slave” has said so! Thousands of Jehovah’s Witness men, women, and children have died for refusing life-saving blood transfusions because only the JW Governing Body can determine what is or is not a matter of conscience, because they speak for Jehovah himself! And, according to the Watchtower, one must be prepared to obey the Governing Body or one’s local elders even if doing so doesn’t make any sense from a strategic or human standpoint. If one dies needlessly by doing so, there is always the resurrection hope for those who die for obeying the JW Governing Body.

People who leave their family religion and convert to the Jehovah’s Witness religion are often disowned and shunned by their families. Such persecution is only to be expected because Jesus said he came to cause such divisions among families. However, when Jehovah’s Witnesses cut-off and shun family members who leave their religion for conscientious reasons, such as unscriptural Watchtower teachings and practices, it is out of love to help the straying one return to Jehovah. Tearing families apart OUT OF LOVE is encouraged by the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Don’t be distracted by all the lawsuits and negative publicity against Jehovah’s Witnesses for failing to report the crimes of pedophile elders, ministerial servants, and pioneers within their congregations, which crimes were never reported to authorities but were kept hidden in secret Watchtower files. Jehovah’s Witnesses are IN the world, but they are not OF the world. As Jehovah’s representatives, they have the right to disobey laws that they deem to be in conflict with Jehovah’s laws. Like the first century Christians, Jehovah’s Witnesses must obey God as ruler rather than men. So, it is okay for JWs to withhold the truth for the purpose of misleading enemies of Jehovah, even if they do so in courts of law after having sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Before visiting a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses, be aware that Jehovah’s Witnesses are well-groomed and modestly dressed. Their female “approved associates” wear minimal makeup and jewelry, and choose dresses that show no cleavage and with hemlines below the knee. Their male “approved associates” refrain from wearing beards and tight pants which were designed by homosexuals, according to the “faithful and discreet slave.” Visitors are encouraged to adhere to these guidelines in order to fit in and to avoid receiving judgmental stares from others.

For further information, please contact your local Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Have a nice day!

Your smiling JW neighbors JW. ORG

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Too Much Information???

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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i hate it when people beat around the bush before coming to the point.

so, i composed the following letter for letter-writing jws who like to cut-to-the-chase, as it were.

feel free to add your own points in the comments below.. “dear neighbor:.

Roger Kirkpatrick

I hate it when people beat around the bush before coming to the point. So, I composed the following letter for letter-writing JWs who like to cut-to-the-chase, as it were. Feel free to add your own points in the comments below.

“Dear Neighbor:

Here are just a few of the Bible truths that your ministers have not taught you: Jesus Christ returned INVISIBLY in the heavens in 1914 CE (the beginning of “the last days”), sat down on the throne of God’s Messianic kingdom, and proceeded to judge all professed Christian religions. In 1918, Christ personally chose the Watchtower Society to be his faithful and discreet slave mentioned at Matthew 24:45, God’s “spirit-directed organization” which would accomplish the worldwide preaching of the good news of God’s kingdom. Only 144,000 persons from the earth were given the hope of ruling as kings and priests in heaven with Christ Jesus (Rev. 14:1). Only a small remnant of such Christians remain on the earth today, and they are ALL Jehovah’s Witnesses. The New Testament was essentially a personal letter from God to those 144,000 Christians who are spirit-anointed to live in heaven with Christ.

“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses is Christ’s faithful and discreet slave today (Matt. 24:45), and only the Governing Body has the right to interpret the Bible for all Christians, not just for JWs. So, forget everything your minister has taught you about the Bible, because all religions--except for Jehovah’s Witnesses--are FALSE religion, and their ministers are actually ministers of Satan the Devil who has blinded their eyes. Oh, they may have taught you that Christ Jesus is the mediator between God and men, but they have not told you that Christ Jesus is ONLY the mediator for spirit-anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses who have the hope of going to heaven. True, Jesus said that no one comes to the Father except through HIM, but no one comes to Jesus EXCEPT through the Governing Body!

“Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only ones teaching that it is a sin to accept life-saving blood transfusions, because the Bible tells Christians plainly to “abstain from blood.” True, many Bible scholars believe that was referring to abstaining from eating the blood of animals which were slaughtered for food, but those scholars are wrong! How do I know? Because the “faithful and discreet slave” has said that they are wrong! Thousands of Jehovah’s Witnesses have died for refusing blood transfusions, because only their Governing Body can deem what is and is not a matter of personal conscience. When people are willing to die for a belief, you know that it must be the truth! Besides, the JW Governing Body is the official spokesmen for God himself!

“People who leave their family religion to convert to the Jehovah’s Witness religion are often disowned and shunned by their families. Such persecution is only to be expected because Jesus said he came to cause such division among families. However, when Jehovah’s Witnesses shun family members who leave the religion for conscientious reasons, such as unscriptural Watchtower teachings and practices, it is out of love to help the straying one return to Jehovah. Tearing families apart out of love is encouraged by the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

“Don’t allow yourself to be distracted by all the lawsuits and publicity against the Watchtower Society for failing for decades to report the crimes of pedophile elders and ministerial servants who sexually abused children within their congregations, whose crimes were never reported to authorities but were kept hidden in secret Watchtower files. Jehovah’s Witnesses are IN the world, but they are not OF the world. As God’s representatives, they have the right to disobey laws that they deem to be in conflict with God’s laws. Jesus told Christians to be cautious as serpents yet innocent as doves. So, it is okay for JWs to withhold the truth for the purpose of misleading enemies of God, even if they do so after having sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

“Therefore, it is imperative that everyone who wishes to avoid destruction by God at Armageddon must become a Jehovah’s Witness as soon as possible because the end of this present system of things is very, very near. Do not hesitate! If you do not believe me, then ask the very next Jehovah’s Witness you meet to show you these truths from the Bible. I know these things are true because I have studied many Watchtower publications which contain hundreds, if not thousands, of scriptural references. Do not make the common mistake of reading your Bible without the aid of Watchtower publications, because you might draw the erroneous conclusion that Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong, and that just cannot be! I know, because my parents and my grandparents were devout Jehovah’s Witnesses, and they were honest people who taught me the truth about there not being any Santa Claus and that Jesus did not really wear a beard (although they reversed their view on that latter point). But, they meant well, and honestly pay all their taxes. Also, Jehovah’s Witnesses are practically the only people who still wear their finest clothes when they go to church (which they call a Kingdom Hall).

“Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only genuine Christians. Prove it to yourself, if you don’t believe me. Print this letter, take it to your local Kingdom Hall and read it to any JW you meet, and see if they don’t confirm every word to be true.

Have A Nice Day,

Your Smiling JW Neighbors”